Again, I suppose the Katz/Wilpons were supposed to make an offer they knew would be rejected so that everyone could complain about the lowball offer they made.
But once Florida bid, the Mets never made a formal offer either. Instead, they let it be known they’d be willing to go as high as five years, $80 million (which is, if you’re keeping score at home, is fewer years and less money). And when the Marlins increased their initial offer to get the deal done, the Mets responded by declaring themselves out of the running.
via Reyes is gone, and now Wilpon’s Mets are smaller than the Florida Marlins | Capital New York.
May I suggest the “First Homestand Ticket Plan” or the “April Iffy Plan”, its Iffy if we are still in it by the end of the month!
You support a franchise that lies to your face – but hey, throwback unis and blue walls make up for it all. Shannon, this a day in Mets infamy – go with it, feel the pain of the fans, don’t try and play it all sarcasm and irony. Doesn’t fly. It’s impossible to sugarcoat this disaster, or to apologize for a management team that makes the Minaya era look like a finely-tuned machine.
Okay so say you give 20 million a year to Reyes. What do you pay to round out the rest of the team?
Well he signed for 17+ per year and we were paying him 11 or so this past season – so we lose our franchise shortstop for one guaranteed year and 6M per – without making a freaking offer!
It’s incredible baseball incompetence – the worst malpractice since Seaver ’77.
Still didn’t answer the question about fielding the rest of the positions.
Seems to me they filled all the positions this past season, no? With similar payroll – +6M for Reyes – substractions elsewhere, you don’t think they’d field a full team? That doesn’t add up…
The payroll this year was 120 million.
Yeah, and? It could be in 2012 as well … Sandy and Bud said no.
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So a team thats still is spending 100 million is not spending enough? What about the teams with a lower payroll then that that make the the post season and even win the world series?
Obviously they have too much locked up in bad players – but that shouldn’t mean jettisoning their best player and therefore depressing the fanbase, decreasing revenue, devaluing the franchise, and digging the hole deeper. It’s stupid business. And it’s stupid baseball.
What they should have done was see this coming, as I did, and trade Reyes in May. But the fans would have complained. Instead they got a 3rd round pick.
They should probably entertain offers for Santana too rather than face his $30m year.
It adds up just fine…to 4th place.
Santana + bay + dickey + wright was what…like 60 million? Then add 6 that Pelfrey will get. Now add 17 for Reyes.
That’s 83 of your “less than 100” and you still need 19 guys. The math never worked.
Nah you guys aren’t being honest here – Reyes at his 2011 salary was $11M – so you’re talking only an extra $6M. It did work. It could work. It should have worked for the team’s *best player.* By far the best player of that group you list (Santana will never be his old self). Plus, this less than 100 is Alderson’s new number – just a couple of months ago it was 120M. This is a horror and far, far more important than throwback unis, blue walls, and fan bricks.
When you say it did work, that team finished 4th with Reyes having an awesome year.
Does Jose make the 2012 Mets better? First place better? Nope.
Yep. But 2017? I dunno.
Sigh – this is terrible argument, the “we didn’t win with Jose” tack. It really is. The team will be terrible in 2012. Tejada is an OK player who will bounce around. 2017 you say? You think it’s 100% guaranteed we’ll develop two players the equal of Reyes and Wright by then? I do not – why? Because it’s only happened 2 other times in 50 years: Seaver/Koosman and Strawberry/Gooden. That’s it. Finito. It’s literally insane to rebuild in NY especially when it involves dumping homegrown stars. Throw in a patently incompetent GM in Alderson (he’s made Omar sound like Winston Churchill the last two days) and it’s really a recipe for disaster.
I don’t want to ignore your comment but let’s agree to disagree and have a beer.
Tom this day has been moving for over a year.
The other stuff is separate from who is wearing it.
I will give the Katz/Wilpons all the benefit of the doubt on Reyes…it may turn out to be the smartest thing to let him go…he could pull a hammy and miss half the year. I won’t miss seeing him trot to first before turning on the speed…or sit out to win a batting title instead of going for it like a champion.
What I can’t get over is how you lose $70 Million (according to Sandy) a year in this market. I don’t want to even research it, but I imagine that is one of the biggest annual losses in the history of sports. Reyes is just the beginning…if they can’t stop operating at a huge loss, they can’t service their debt, let alone field a good team. We root for a team, but also a business enterprise. As a business enterprise, this ownership is officially a catastrophe rivaling the M. Donald Grant days.