On 3 I rip the band-aid off. One…two…
I know, I know…Jose Reyes and his kindly agent are definitely going to re-sign with the Mets at a price that allows Sandy Alderson to also add other pieces even though it has been said over and over that the Mets will cut payroll next year and K-Rod is well on his way to vesting. Together, Wright and Reyes play together for years and finish 1-2 in all the offensive stat categories.
How long you been watching this soap opera?
Michael Baron from Mets Blog got me thinking yesterday when he wondered on twitter where the Mets would be without Reyes. Well, WITH Reyes they are a 4th place team looking up at the Nationals and Pirates. Up.
I know this all hurts Mets fans, but turn off your emotions for a second and think this through.
You may have heard of the Wilpons. They own the Mets. They have money concerns.
Reyes is going to make a lot of money.
The Mets are in 4th place.
Reyes is playing as well as any player has these first three months. His value will never be higher.
The Mets could lose him after the season and just get draft picks. Sometimes those picks turn into David Wright, Ike Davis or Mike Pelfrey. Sometimes they turn into Lastings Miledge or Bobby Keppel. You feeling lucky?
Comments are open. Start blasting away. Besides when this happens we can all don old New York Giants caps and root for the team of our ancestors in the playoffs as a sign of solidarity. The caps are black so they’ll sell.
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Some fun from the off-season. You can make the choice that no one else will face. The right choice.
What happened to “Don’t Trade Jose Night?”….I hae been saying that all along!
We can finish in the basement with or without him!
It’s a question of “why bother?” Why bother being fans and rooting for the team to win. Rebuilding is always a myth, and prospects in mid-season are Lotto tickets. Trading the greatest homegrown everyday player in Mets history is a lot more than pulling off he band-aid – it’s taking a chainsaw to your own right arm.
It’s simple. Sign Reyes, keep a franchise player that the fanbase loves that will define your franchise for, and this isn’t an exaggeration, 60+ years. Keep one of the best players in the game at a premium position of which there is nothing close available on the market or in the minors. Finish the season at or above .500, regardless of if they can make a playoff push or not. Have people believing 2012 will be better, that we’re already into year two of the ‘rebuilding’ process and things are good and people are buying season tickets.
Or, you can trade him or let him walk away. finish below .500. Show people that this is year one of the demolition process before rebuilding starts. Watch no one pay any attention to the Mets all offseason, no one will buy season tickets, renew season tickets. 2.5million fans this year becomes 1.5million fans next year, and in 2013, and in 2014.. prices come down because no one’s going, revenue drops as a result, less demand on advertising space drops revenue there as well. SNY becomes the Food Network, sure you’ll flip it on once in a while and see what’s cookin’, but it’s not worth DVRing. In an age when it’s so very very easy to watching any team, and the Mets unwatchable, many fans start half-following the Giants or wherever Reyes ends up. In 2014 the Mets sell out the Giants series at Citi with the stands awash of really faded Black Mets 7 shirts. The next series against the Phillies is empty, no one wants to see two bad teams play. Citi Field feels empty without #7.
Ceeetar is exactly right. Sadly, Shannon’s POV speaks of the fatalism that afflicts too many long-term Mets fans. Yippee a Lee Mazzilli pic and some wacky jerseys! We suck, trade Jose! That’s the Mets baby. Sums it all up. Like wallowing in a warm shallow pool after 37 infants have had their swing.
C’mon buck up – this is freaking Mets Police, not a Stockholm Syndrome reunion party!
This tired soap opera has become revolting to participate in. Debating the future is mindless, if they trade him, hopefully it will be for a haul, if they sign him hopefully it will be reasonable, if he leaves via free agency, I’ll be surprised.
I am sick of this argument about trading Reyes. First of all, the Mets history shows that they are better off with the draft picks. None of these deadline trades have worked out in the past and they seldom work out for any other team.
Keep in mind that Reyes is already making 11 million. Does anyone really think that the Mets wouldnt sign Reyes at 6 years 66 million? The jump from 11 million 20 million with 35 million coming off the books is not as big a stretch than paying 20 million when your base is less than 5 million. The Mets do have some big advantages here.
This team is 5 games out of the wild card without David Wright, Ike Davis, and Johan Santana. It is easy to say it is a 4th place team looking up at team A & team B to make a case to trade Jose. Now I am not going to say oh wait till we get David, Ike & Johan back because this team will be unstoppable but this does kind of prove that this team is better then everybody thought. If you get rid of Jose (along with Beltran which is a given) this team will be the team that people thought it was at the beginning of the season which is a last place team. Jose is 1 of the few reasons for the casual fans to actually go to Citi Field right now. If the team is smart they keep him around because without him Citi will be a ghost town.
Trade Reyes, Beltran, K-Rod, Izzy, & Capuano prior to the deadline. Face it people, this team doesn’t have the pitching to make it to the postseason. This is a perfect opportunity for the team to rebuild on the fly and become a legitimate contender overnight. If they can get Madison Bumgarner and a top pitching prospect from the Giants, you make the trade tomorrow. Regardless of what team Reyes is traded to, I don’t think he and his agent are going to sign a long term extension until after the season. Is it far fetched to think that the Mets will tell Reyes if they do trade him that they will be interested in signing him back in the offseason????
Nobody trades “prospects” anymore. Teams rarely deal a legitimate internal solution that will cost millions (perhaps tens of millions less) than a free agent replacement. This is why Beltrans, KRod and Reyes are far more likely to yield an assortment of Chris Carters than Scott Kazmirs. Try to sign Reyes and take your chances in the supplemental draft. Based on their resumes, I have more faith in Alderson & Company’s drafting ability than previous regimes. The “They could finish 4th without him” argument oversimplifies Reyes contribution to the Mets. He has made a Triple A team competitive at the Major League Level this season. Imagine what he could do if the surrounding cast improved.
I don’t know what the right answer is. I do believe that the right move is to determine what will make the franchise a consistent post season contender for an extended period of time and to embark on that course.
With the limited information available to me about the organization’s financial resources and the level of talent in the system as a whole my head has me leaning toward parting company with Reyes because it seems unlikely to me that the major league team can be a legitimate annual post season contender for a 5-10 year period while also paying Reyes the money he certainly deserves.
Clearly there are some things I don’t know and hopefully some of those things allow the Mets to somehow be an annual contender with Reyes because that’s what my heart wants.
“Michael Baron from Mets Blog got me thinking yesterday when he wondered on twitter where the Mets would be without Reyes. Well, WITH Reyes they are a 4th place team looking up at the Nationals and Pirates.”
that is my exact argument for trading Wright, not Reyes. Think about where the Mets would be WITHOUT Reyes. 5th place anyone? They weren’t exactly a first place team when Wright was in the lineup this year.
I really think Mets Police could use a new t-shirt campaign:
Man Up and
Root to Win!
All this rooting for failure, accepting fate, falling in love with being stomped on, enjoying the brickbats is understandable but also kinda pathetic. C’mon Shannon:
Man Up and
Root to Win!
Can we get Dara in one of those please?
The Mets couldn’t even get the font right on Madoff’s jacket.
Oh, as for Reyes, I am 100% sure this is as good as he will ever be. You would be trading at the top. Unfortunately, since his contract is coming up, you may not get much for him anyway. You have to judge what is better…a couple of prospects or a compensation draft pick. If the Mets sign him, he’ll surely revert back to prior years.
You call that a graphic?
THIS is a graphic:
http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/416/416886/folders/306109/2472104fix-the-team.jpg
That’s good…but this would set sales records:
SELL THE TEAM!