Reader Comments: Uniforms and Tickets

Some reader comments from a busy off-season day.


Anthony has left a new comment on your post “The New 2010 New York Mets Pinstriped Uniform“:

Okay, here’s my take: It’s the same jersey just creme-colored instead of white. Wow. They kept the drop-shadow so they can wear in with the black/blue hat and the black socks and undershirts (ugh). That doesn’t seem all that “retro” to me. My ideal Mets uniforms would be as such: Pinstripe uni with blue hats, undershirts, and socks; road gray with BLUE hats, undershirts, and socks. For a third I would go with a blue jersey maybe with Mets in orange lettering outlined in white again with blue hats, etc. If you want to keep the black only wear the solid black hat with the black uniform. No mixing! And no black hat with the blue brim! The solid white uni is alright and should again be worn with blue hats, etc. And now we’re up to what? 100 uniforms? 

I’m hearing a lot of this kind of comment.   Since the black isn’t going away nor is the dropshadow…I think the franchise would be wise to park the blue/black hybrid hats.  Those look the worst of all.  If you must wear a black jersey just pair it with the all-black cap.   It’s slightly less an abomination.


Scott has left a new comment on your post “2010 15-Game Plans and Prices Released“:

So basically, nothing happened last year in the eyes of Mets officials. Wonder how long it takes em to realize their phones aren’t ringing. It seriously must be nice to be rich enough to run something into the ground with no regard for common sense





kjs has left a new comment on your post “2010 15-Game Plans and Prices Released“: 

Fellow fans:

If you are canceling your plan(s), please don’t just rip up the invoice. Invest the 43 cents and let the Metsknow why.

I’m sending back my two invoices, my obstructed-view ticket from Section 504, and a note that I will not enter any plan unless the seats are unobstructed, behind home plate, include only 13 Friday or Saturday games, and request a full refund for my obstructed seat, a refund for my ticket—including fees, and a 40% reduction off the current seat prices. (My ticket partner has already rejected renewing his half of any deal; he’ll root for the Mets, but will shift his hopes to the BoSox).

I plan to have some comments about the ticket plans around lunchtime.   I haven’t really gotten to take a look.  Thanks to Dan for getting that info up last night.

Cindy has left a new comment on your post “The New 2010 New York Mets Pinstriped Uniform“:

This is a typical Mets move. They tell us fans they hear us and understand our concerns then try to pass this “retro uni” off on us. It is not retro. It is not what most fans wanted. We want one classic (white pins, blue cap no black anywhere) home uniform and one classic (gray blue cap no black anywhere) road uniform. I can’t take it anymore, they make themselves look more foolish each year. 
paulsrandomstuff has left a new comment on your post “The New 2010 New York Mets Pinstriped Uniform“: 

This is not a retro jersey. It’s an unwanted tweak of the 2009 pinstripe.

I hope they’ll wear them with matching color pants. 

Thanks folks!


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Top New York Mets Turkeys Of All Time (Part Three)

Parts one and two of this series were from 2008, however 2009 was just so special that some new additions to the Mets Turkeys have made it.

Last year I forgot one of the all-timer turkeys (which in turn makes me a blogger turkey) in Jim Fregosi.  If you watched Mets Yearbook 1971 you know how excited the Mets were to get him.  In 146 games across two seasons he hit .243 with 5 HRs and 43 RBI.  Never mind how annoying trading Nolan Ryan for Fregosi was, the Mets sent him to Texas for a player to be named later.  Nolan Ryan for “send me someone when you get around to it.”   Awful.

Another suggestion came in, and it’s a good one.  Vince Coleman.   Like Bobby Bonilla and our next turkey was from the “if you can’t beat ’em sign ’em” Mets philosophy (under this philosophy Chase Utley will be a Met around his 39th birthday).   Hit Dwight Gooden with a golf club, check.  Throw a firework, check.  Suspended?  Check.  Ever see a Coleman jersey at Citi Field?  Keep waiting.

Speaking of “if you can’t beat ’em sign ’em” say you needed to win one game to save your season?   Seven runs in 1/3 of an inning to complete the 2007 choke.  61-56 as a Met but my lasting memory of Tom Glavine will always be that last day.

 Jeff Kent.  I’m pulling out of field 6 at Jones Beach and I put on WFAN.   The Mets have traded David Cone for Jeff Kent and Ryan Thompson.   What???    Thompson was a turkey but didn’t play enough to be an all-time turkey.   Kent managed to win an MVP (elsewhere) and maybe even accumulate enough stats to make the Hall of Fame, but he’ll always be hated around these parts.  He didn’t like us and we didn’t like him.  We won’t see Jeff at too many Old Timer’s Days not that we have those…I mean the team has only been around for 50 years.

Dan sent some over:

Steve Chilcott â€“ The Mets had the first pick in the 1966 amateur draft.  Their scouts had focused on a young outfielder attending Arizona State University.  The kid had power and speed – he was a sure bet to advance though the system.  Yet as the draft drew near, the Mets changed their plans and drafted Steve Chilcott, a catcher out of Lancaster, CA.  The supposed reason?  The young OFer was black and his girlfriend was white.  Chilcott never played a game in the majors.  The young OFer is in the Hall of Fame – Reggie Jackson.
Frank Viola â€“ In 1988 Viola won the AL Cy Young with the Twins going 24-7.  After starting 1989 at 8-12, the Twins traded Viola to the Mets for Rick Aguliera and a cast of others.  Viola spent 2 ½ years with the Mets going 38-32 before departing as a free agent.   Even though his record wasn’t that bad, he never really lived up to his hype.  Meanwhile Aguliera spent 11 years in Minnesota racking up 254 saves.
George Bamberger, Jeff Torborg, Dallas Green, Art Howe â€“ All managers with winning records brought to the Mets to try an invigorate them, only to fail miserably.
Shawn Abner, Tim Leary, Jason Tyner, Terry Blocker, Billy Beane et al â€“ Yeah, every team has their stories about draft picks that didn’t make it, but this is a blog about the Mets.  For some reason these guys were all hyped more than others and never quite did anything

Mike weighed in with this one:

Jeff Torborg:   Anybody who sat through the daily Mike and the Mad Dog interviews with Torborg knows how bad a manager he was.  For those who don’t remember, Torborg signed a contract with WFAN to do a daily spot with Mike and the Mad Dog and by June it was the most painful thing to listen to–the radio equivalent of not being able to turn away from a massive car crash.

The person most grateful to see Torborg fired was the sponsor.

Now on to 2009.  Doesn’t this picture make you mad?  No the Yankees didn’t just win the World Series in this photo, they just won a Subway Series game because Luis Castillo can’t catch a pop-up.  We’ll be talking about that one 50 years from now.  Congrats Luis, you are an unforgettable Met.

The Promenade.   I’m tempted to go all-in and name the entire ballpark a turkey, but it has some nice aspects…but the upper deck is a turkey.  How you could sell someone this seat and expect not to lose a customer is beyond me.   I don’t know how this happened, but the Promenade is a terrible place to see the game, and in left field you can’t see the left fielder.   They made better ballparks 100 years ago.









David Howard.   I don’t think he’s actually a Batman villain, but I have no idea what he looks like and pictures of him on the intertubes are rare.   Dave makes our list because he’s a spinmeister.  Although he scored some rare points with me over the weekend, it’s really hard to un-turkey.   Dave makes the list because of this:   Mets Today did a great recap of his interview with Francesca, from which we excerpt.

The way we characterize “obstructed” is if you have an obstruction, something in front of you — a beam, a pillar, something that’s blocking your view. That’s not the case here. It is a function of the geometry of the building. And it is a conscious decision that we made along with the designers and the architects, that we wanted people to be lower and closer to the field, and have great views, and great views of the action

Wait, so you’re saying it was deliberate not to be able to see the game?

Yes I understand the issue in the left field promenade reserve, I understand the issue with the Pepsi porch, that was, again, intentional, to bring the seats low and close, and overhang the field, it’s a great perspective, it’s very cool, it’s very popular, we understand the concern, it’s the lowest-priced seat in the building, it’s still a great seat, and we still feel we’re delivering a tremendous value to our customers.


Gobble gobble.  Happy Thanksgiving everyone!  (Still more to come today, and all weekend, we’re not packing it in.)

Part one of this series.

Part two of this series.

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Must Read: Uniwatch On Mets Uniforms

If you like what we do around here…we’re nothing compared to the king.  Go check out Uni Watch for a great ripjob on the new unis.

Here’s a taste:

 Let these facts be submitted to a candid world: There’s been the endless procession of alternate caps; the miserable black alternate jerseys; the pointless addition of black drop shadows to everything; the shunting aside of blue as a team color, especially on the road uniform; the wearing of the road cap at home; the near-disappearance of the home pinstripes; the removal of the “NY” from the skyline logo; the needless imposition of a black skyline logo; the worst stadium-opening sleeve patch in MLB history; and on and on.

Fired up?  Go read!!

Update:  Lets you think you and I are alone in this fight…read the comments section of the Uni Watch article.   The Mets are getting killed, as always.

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Five Questions For An Average Mets Fan (Fan #28)

Good morning…once again I will alternate responses to the 5 questions with other type posts.

In the leadoff spot today…Justin.


1. When did you start following the Mets? 

Unfortunately, the earliest memory I have is the Mike Scioscia game.  But I was definitely a fan before then.  Basically as early as I was able to understand baseball.

2. What is your favorite Mets memory? 

Probably winning the NLCS in 2000.  It was the first World Series the Mets were in that I could actually remember.  I was 4 years old in 1986.  Clinching the NL East in 2006 is a close second, since I was there.  So many years of being tortured by the Braves was finally over.  That team seemed to have limitless potential.  How times have changed.

3. What is your worst Mets memory or experience? 

Beltran looking at strike 3 in Game 7 of the 2006 NLCS.

4. If you could change one off-field thing about the franchise what would it be?  

Better customer service for the fans.  Go above and beyond everything.  The happier they are, the better the atmosphere, the better the entire team will do.

5. If you owned the team starting tomorrow, what is the first thing you would change?  

Better communication within the team and the media.  First class organization all the way.

Thanks for the questions.  Something therapeutic about writing them.

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Five Questions For An Average Mets Fan (Fan #27)

Whew, another busy off-season day.
Back to the Five Questions….#27 is Craig Swan’s number…and Michael is the 27th fan in our informal survey.

1. When did you start following the Mets?
I don’t remember a specific time or moment. I was too young to really care about ’86. I sensed the excitement in the house, but it didn’t mean much personally. I was brought to more and more games as I got older, and it was just right.
2. What is your favorite Mets memory?
Being at Shea for Ventura’s Grand Single. I was 17, and me and a friend got tickets randomly through a friend of a friend. Being in the stands for Endy’s catch was amazing as well, although the feeling not lasting very long puts it a distant second.
3. What is your worst Mets memory or experience?
The last games of ’07 and ’08 were pretty bad. Not being there in ’07 blocked some of the pain, and the Shea Goodbye ceremony and the deja vu helped in ’08, so I’m going to say game 7 in ’06, despite all the good feelings from that year. To get so close, to have the bases loaded, to have Endy’s catch, and then have it all taken away so fast as we all silently exited the building and drove home was horrible. The hawker trying to sell me a Cardinals cap outside didn’t help either.
4. If you could change one off-field thing about the franchise what would it be?
I would harp on the Mets being about “New York Baseball” honoring each and every team from the Giants and the Dodgers to the Federal League and Negro League teams. Everyone except the Yankees, who were transplanted from Baltimore.
5. If you owned the team starting tomorrow, what is the first thing you would change?
I’d fire Dan Warthen and Jerry Manuel. It’s not often an owner can snap his fingers and make the team better.

That’s it for today….tomorrow more Mets Turkeys, more responses to the Five Questions, and likely more uniform stuff.

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