Re-post: The 2010 Hall of Garvey Inductees

I’m reposting the below.  When the list of new folks eligible for the Hall of Fame came out, I revisited my “Hall of Garvey” which is for the pretty good.   I would consider Andre Dawson to be pretty good.  I heard Russo talking about how Craig Biggio will make the Hall of Fame but isn’t “really a Hall of Famer” and Chris said Biggio wasn’t even the best player on his team or the best second baseman of his time.   I will put Biggio in the HOG (Hall of Garvey) when the time comes.




Here’s a repost of the 2010 ballot:

Years ago I created the “Hall of Garvey.”  It’s a place for the very very good.   Those who are just shy of the Hall of Fame  Keith Hernandez and Don Mattingly are in the HOG, and this year’s Hall of Fame ballot provides some new nominees, and there’s some pretty good players on the list.  However, there’s a difference between pretty good and all-time.
Let’s take a look at the 2010 Hall of Fame ballot and see who should make the HOF, who makes the HOG and who makes neither.
Mark McGwire:  Fame.  I’m sorry everyone, he was America’s sweetheart in 1998 and you all cheered for him.  If you didn’t think his workout plan was suspect at the time you were lying to yourself.  Blew away a record that hadn’t been touched in 40 years.  I’m not going to ignore his fame, his infamy nor his 583 home runs. The Hall of Fame will be absurd without Bonds and Rose in it, as you’ll lose the home run record holder and the hit king.   Start a Hall of Nice Guys or get over it.
Edgar Martinez.   Garvey.   There will be a push for Edgar but 2200 hits and how about you pick up a glove and catch a ball.
Barry Larkin.  Garvey.  I want to give him fame just for playing 19 seasons with one team…but 2340 hits is why the Hall of Garvey was started.  Go stand next to Steve and his 2599 hits.
Fred McGriff.  Garvey.   2009 is quite a year for the HOG.   Fred was a very good player, but 441 home runs in an era where that’s not that many.   I guess he should have cheated.
Roberto Alomar.   Garvey.  There was a time where he was talked about as being in his way to being the best second baseman ever.  He fell off a cliff after age 32, just in time to come to the Mets and fall out of Fame contention.   A pretty good ballplayer even if it never showed in Queens.
Pete Rose. Fame.   4256.  You can’t ignore it.
Robin Ventura.   None.   I won’t go down the list of everyone eligible for the Hall of Fame but I will cover two ex-Mets.  Nice player, I liked him, but you gotta draw a line somewhere and the line is above 1885 hits.
Todd Zeile.   None.  Another nice player, but were you ever at a game and thought to yourself “there goes one of the best baseball players I have ever seen?”
This is just one man’s opinion, and I don’t get a vote for the HOF.   However, I do run the Hall of Garvey.   Congratulations to the Class of 2010, Roberto Alomar, Fred McGriff, Barry Larkin, and Edgar Martinez.

My 2009 Hall of Garvey Class:  Bert Blyleven, Jim Rice and Dale Murphy to the HOG.

Previous inductees include:  Steve Garvey, Keith Hernandez, Don Mattingly.

By the way, do y’all realize that as time marches on, technologies change, and newspapers die, someday someone like Matt Cerrone will have and will deserve a ballot for the actual Hall?

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Another Mets ticket office anecdote

Ed posted this as a comment but I thought it warranted a post.  Good info here.


Shannon,

I have a 15 day ticket plan, the orginal deadline was Dec. 18th. I called to say that I wanted to move my seats within the same price range but to a better view and gave them the location ( 528 to 524). They said I needed to take advantage of the on-line partial renew plan and that my name would be placed on a list in the order I renewed. They explained to me that the section I was looking to move into was sold out last year and I needed to wait until they had a renewal totals in,seasons ticket holders, then partial season holders and then 15 day holders had preference.

I made my partial payment and after not hearing from them since the deadline past I called them today. They stated they were currently going through the process of counting non renewals on season tickets, moving 40 game plan requests and 15 day plans on the list who renewed would be getting calls next week. They had my request and stated basically that I would probably get my request based on availability and when I renewed.

They were very helpful, polite and stated everything very clearly. 

Thanks Ed, good explanation, and I enjoy this type of information-cycle that we had today on the site.  I think it’s good for fans to have this type of info-exchange.  Much appreciated.


Personally, I still think they should just take your money and move you quickly. 


My brain:  Wouldn’t a computer or excel spreadsheet be able to quickly count the non-renewals?  I’ve never ran a ticket office, what do I know.  Just seems strange from afar, but I’m happy to hear they were helpful, polite, clear and that you came away satisfied.


Keep this stuff coming Mets fans!


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Today’s Mets ticket office anecdote

I’m sure many of you got today’s mass-email from the Mets selling tickets, and as mentioned this morning the 15 game plans are on sale to anyone.

One reader has been trying to upgrade his tickets to a better location.  Let me repeat, he….wants…to…give….the….Mets….money……

In December they told him he’d have to wait until after the deadline.  That makes sense I guess.  Well the deadline passed and he had to call the Mets.  Shouldn’t they be pouncing on this guy?

On today’s call he was told the Mets have…not sure how to phrase this…basically if you didn’t renew your 15er, your name is no longer linked to those seats.  Again, fair and makes sense.  They gave us two chances and we thumbed our noses, and now they are and should be trying to sell to others.

Back to the one dude who actually wants tickets.  Wants to spend MORE money.

He was told to wait until Wednesday.  Today is Thursday where I live.  6 days?

Customer asked how many people are hounding the Mets for upgrades?  Rep chuckled and said “not many.”

Why make this guy wait?  Why? Why? Why?

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Mets Police Decade In Review: How to "Mets up" Citi Field

Mets Police is here to help not hurt.  From the archives, May 2009 and a suggestion to borrow some ideas from Yankee Stadium.  At least they did the banners…and I’ve since learned that the Mets have done the baseball cards thing, but it’s on the club level.




Some more photos from my trip to Yankee Stadium on Saturday.   I think the photos speak for themselves as for ideas the Mets could copy to make Citi Field seem more Mets Field than like a ballpark the Mariners could move into next weekend.
These first two pictures are the “holograms” that I heard of on my first visit.  Depending on your angle, they could look like this…
..or like this.
Regardless, the Mets could learn from the Yankees and put up some pictures of their more popular former players.
I’m not going to tell the Wilpons who these players are any more unless they start paying me a consultants fee.
Another way to decorate walls is like this.   This is over by the Yankees Museum (imagine that, a room that honors the team that plays in the stadium).
I like this baseball card design.   To the left of Yogi is Gehrig, and to his left Ruth.   The person cut off on the right is Mattingly.
You’ll find this right by the museum.
This next photo is taken from across the River Avenue in the “old” garage, which is why its obstructed by a screen.  I mean its not obstructed, it’s part of the design of the lot, but I digress.
On the outside of Yankee Stadium they have photos of the current players.  I didn’t notice until I was leaving.
This next picture shows the entrance to something called a museum.   There you can honor the great players and moments from the team’s history.
Not the history of a team that bolted town fifty years ago, but the actual team you root for.  Neat idea!
The Yankees have placed Thurman Munson’s locker in that museum.  What fools, don’t they know how much artifacts go for in auctions?!

Update January 2010:   What’s interesting is that I’ve since learned that the Mets actually do have things like this.   However, they are in the suite level.

Starting Monday we’ll walk down this hallway and see what the rich people get to enjoy.

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Pictures of the 1978 Mets Yearbook (Part 4)

Here’s a few leftovers from my chocolate stained 1978 Mets yearbook.   Here’s manager Joe Torre (bum) who just bought a suit.  It’s funny, you never see a “dress like Jerry Manuel” type ad.  I guess Omar has some nice crisp suits…does Bonds still exist?

Another giveaway from the past….jacket day.  I think I had this too.  I recall it being vinyl and very very very hot and sticky to wear in any weather.

Finally, one more horribe job at picture taking by me.  If this shot weren’t upside down you could enjoy some primo 1978 electronics from Emerson.

Next week, 1983’s yearbook.

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