Mailbag: New York Mets "Saturday" Tickets, Citi Field Noise, Banners and Obstructed Views

Been a little bit on the busy side.  Catching up on some good comments…
 
 
 
Re the Mets not offering this Saturday in the (cough) Saturday plan:
 
DyHrdMET has left a new comment on your post “Why Isn’t This Saturday Included In New York Mets …“:

when this came out last year, i started to think that maybe the Wilpons were losing their grip on the core fan base. If only we knew what else was to come.

 
someone else added:
 
Its because its included in the Weekend Plan, which I have. We’ve also stolen August 1st and September 19th from your plan, so please don’t be too upset.

At least your plan includes the Subway Series, which the Weekend plan doesn’t.

 
 
 
Re: “New York Mets Citi Field Obstructed Views Were Not…“:

After viewing those computer rendering of CitiField, even with the new design… WHY did’nt they make the outfiled wall royal blue as its seen in the computer renderings????? I think it looks great in blue… and it offers more of a “Mets” feel to the ballpark, somthing that many people have said is lacking at CitiField. That black wall has to go. The blue wall, as the Mets advertised CitiField before it opened looks way better.

 
I know I’m in the minority and it’s against my ususal positions on things, but I don’t hate the black wall.  The Wilpons should claim that the black fence and orange foul poles are “for the Giants” to shut me up.
 
 
 
 
Patrick has left a new comment on your post “Did The New York Mets Misplace Their Championship …“:

The only banners that mean a thing, the 1973 and 2000 pennant flags plus the 1969 and 1986 World Series flags are flying in plain view on the flagpoles in the pepsi porch, you can stand under them and take pictures, I did.

The division titles and worse the wild card banner from 1999 are right where they belong hidden, as each of those seasons are as meaningful as the ones in which the Mets did not make the playoffs.

By the way, love Keith Hernandez, but he has no business getting his number retired by the Mets.

 
Good point about the flags.  I’ll grab some pics tonight.  I also think there’s no reason for wild card flags/pennants/signs.  I’m even borderline on division titles.  When’s the last time anyone mentioned 1988 outside of the word “Scioscia.”
 
I feel Keith should be the next number retired.  Ahead of Piazza.   I can’t quite explain it – not sure how old you are – but if you were a fan in 1982 you understand what Keith brought with him when he came in 1983.   The stats do not tell the entire story…especially when you don’t multiply the numbers by 1.5 to account for the steroid era.  A Strawberry 39 home runs was way more impressive than a Luis Gonzalez 58.
 
Regarding post “A Look At The Assault On The Senses At New York Me…“:

I sometimes wonder whether Mr. Wilpon ever attends a game, because if he did, I’d be surprised that he wouldn’t be disturbed by the over the top nature of the MAKE NOISE department’s crap (which by the way is much worse in Tampa!!!)

I sometimes wonder whether anyone with the Mets ever says anything like, maybe we sould turn it down a little, tone it down a little, not do it as often. I gather that they assume it’s what their SPONSORS want, after all, the sponsors rule, no?

Finally, you’re right, NOISE SHOULD BE NATURAL.

Sponsors do rule.  Never forget, the stuff on the field is just there to get you to buy hot dogs and watch Geico commercials.  I’m not being catty, the goal is to make money.  Winning tends to help, but the Rays owners were doing just fine when they were losing 100 games.

Any Mets Police Requests Or Suggestions For Tonight?

I’m heading out to Citi (man the brain wants to say Shea)…camera in hand.
 
Anything anyone wants checked out?  
 
I think maybe I’ll walk over to 126th street and take a peek at the pennants.
 
Hit me up at [email protected], @metspolice on twitter or comments.

Why Isn’t This Saturday Included In New York Mets Saturday Tickets Plan?

I have a (cough) Saturday plan.
 
As you know, this past Monday was a Saturday.  I hgave away my seats.
 
This Saturday is not a Saturday.  
 
I was thinking that the Mets are away.  Nope.
 
I was thinking I stubhubbed them and forgot.  Nope.
 
Did I lose the tickets?  Nope.
 
I took a look here (http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/nym/ticketing/season_plans.jsp) and nope, this Saturday isn’t part of the (cough) Saturday plan (although Tuesday June 23rd is).
 
I can understand in the age of greed and screwing fans that they stick me with a few weekday games.  It’s not right, but it’s the price you pay I guess.
 
What I don’t understand is why this game against the Marlins wasn’t included?  Do the Mets think “Tote Bag Night” wasn’t worth wasting on jerks like me who bought 30 games?
 
Am I missing something?  Facts wrong?   Anyone else with Saturday tickets out there?

New York Mets Citi Field Obstructed Views Were Not In The Original Design

This was posted as comment last week.  Very interesting stuff, thanks Lou!


Lou has left a new comment on your post “Solutions For Citi Field’s Obstructed View Problem…“: 

The question I have is why did the Mets change the design from the original concept first introduced at the press conference held April 6, 2006. If you go here (NOTE THIS LINK WILL REDIRECT IN 5 SECONDS IT ISN’T BUSTED – SHANNON) there is an original computer rendering (scroll to the bottom) of Citi Field (then simply known as Mets Ballpark). 


The promenade had portals or tunnels instead of staircases with the landings that have been causing so many complaints. It’s the same design as the new Yankee stadium. Another cut away image shows a split staircase tucked in under the deck with no obstructing landing. Why did the Mets change the original design? The newer design, via computer animation, shows the obstructions. You can see them for yourselves at http://www.seats3d.com/mlb/new_york_mets/


Ripping out the first three rows of the promenade is not going to happen. As it is, Citi Field only holds 41,900. They don’t want to move below that. A cheap solution is to remove the Plexi-glass on the stair ways. That just does not work because of glare and smudges. Replace the glass with standard rails. The railings will obstruct but at least if you can manuever a bit, you can get a more clear shot at the action not having to look through scratched up Plexi-glass. A very expensive, and unlikely solution, would be to go back to the original design concept. But that would involve cutting through sections of cast concrete risers then moving the stairs under the deck. Honestly, I can’t see that ever happening. I have been to Citi Field twice and I love the park. But I do think the Mets blew it with the promenade. The other problem that can never be corrected easily is that parts of the left and right field corners are blocked (in the promenade) the further down the lines you go. Many outfield seats prohibit seeing all of the outfield. This is a more common problem found in many of the new retro parks. The Mets wanted a small intimate ballpark with tight seating and “unprecedented” sight lines. They got that but not for everybody.

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