MetsBlog’s fan confidence rating is at 11%

29 Replies to “MetsBlog’s fan confidence rating is at 11%”

1. It’ll go up in spring, and even further during the season. since everything is negative in the mainstream media, of course the negative nanny’s that vote in Metsblog polls are negative. But what about the average family that tdoesn’t spend time on the internet with the Mets? how do they feel? When the Mets are 15-12, what do they think?

   1. negative in the mainstream, well yeah, but blogland isn’t exactly roses!

2. Metsblog has always struck me as extremely, WFAN-esque, negative. Not to say the general subset of Mets fans aren’t negative right now, and not that his current style of poll (right track/wrong track) cannot be interpreted in many different ways, but the whole idea of fandom is an emotional connection and I’d say most fans, whether bloggers, blog readers, or casual fans, are going to be swayed by the way the last couple of seasons went and what’s being written and talked about in the main stream media. But put that voter in a vaccum, at Citi Field, with Mike Pelfrey on the mound and Jose Reyes at the plate and suddenly he believes.

   1. The message boards are negative but i think the editorial looks for the good, whereas this site nitpicks by design. In any media or business people are quick to fire off a complaint but slow to write on things line “my burger and fries were cooked properly” but u will complain I there’s a hair in your fries

3. 11 is probably about as low as it would ever actually go because Cerrone is a hack and like much of what he does, he half-asses this poll. since it is 1-10, the lowest it can be is 10%…there is no way it could be less than that because he doesn’t allow us to vote 0.

   1. Curious what your critique of Matt is? The site seems very reliable to me and he doesn’t inject that much editorial. I think i am more of a “hack”. It doesn’t matter to me if u like him or not but i am curious

4. Chief,

   11%? Is it really that high? Jeff Wilpon & David Howard cracked the code and keep voting that the fans have a large amount of confidence in this team? Really?

5. I guess all the bloggers are ”hacks,” but I think Cerrone fancies himself a legit journalist. I just get the sense that he is more company-man than Mets fan. His continued man-crush on Murphy is a perfect example. I’m fine with him liking Murphy…but I don’t think anyone else outside the organization is as bullish on him as Matt is.

   At other times it’s clear he doesn’t really “get” the game of baseball from the vocabulary he uses to describe the game. The opinion poll is just an example of his amateurism.

6. The thing is with Cerrone’s blog … though he does an excellent job … it’s sponsored by SNY. Maybe there is a hands-off policy, but perception and appearances matter. So it is not as independent [thank you Mets Police, Kranepool Society, Faith and Fear, all newspaper blogs except the Daily News etc.] as you think. Metsblog just -looks- like an SNY marketing tool.

   1. This is an interesting discussion to me. I got killed once because I said something along the lines of MetsBlog doesn’t feel like a blog to me…and what i meant is that to me blogs are more like nuts like me popping off, whereas MB seems like a profressional entererprise.

      it is sponsored, but so what? Do you think I’m not going to slap a big Rheingold ad across the top if someone offers me money? Metsblog is well done, and he monetizes it however he does…and more power to him. More on this in a reply to another comment.

7. Cerrone is an ass. He actually screens comments and won’t let everyone Post. Supposedly if you have a certain number of comments you will eventually get through but that hasn’t happened for me and a lot of others.
   Plus, he just Posted a comment that the Mets had a successful Off season. He just lost all credibility right there. It’s obvious he doesn’t want to upset Mets brass so his website is basically a schill for the inept Mets organization.
   Cerrone is a hack and sell-out.

   1. At a personal level, I too screen comments. I’d like this site to remain a certain tone (you’ll notice I rarely and I think never use foul language in a post) and want to stay out of the gutter and away from racism. I know that when I have a popular post it can be time consuming to go through the posts (it took me a month to catch up on the “5 questions” series) – so that’s some insight into a blogger’s mind. I don’t know what is in Matt’s brain, perhaps the site gets so many comments that it’s too hard to keep up?

8. I understand the metsblog is part of SNY, but keep in mind that it was an independent fan blog long before it was a SNY product. And since he managed to turn his blog into a full time job and does some mainstream media stuff I dont think it is to wrong for Matt to consider himself “legit” so to speak from that sense.

   He is a bit more optimistic than some blogs, and I am sure a little bit of that comes from the paycheck and maybe a little bit from his desire to keep the information flowing onto his site. But it isn’t like he avoids criticism entirely, and the fans certainly are critical to say the least.

   Overall, I like the information over there and to use the term “hack” is just not accurate at all IMO.

   I also like the way he changed up the poll recently to Right/Wrong direction, I think that addressed the 1-10 criticism from earlier nicely.

   1. I think James nailed it. Matt’s the blogger who made good. Again, if ESPN New York calls me, there’s gonna be an ESPN logo on this site within 5 minutes and you can all say i “sold out.” I like to buy goods and services and have a mortgage. I don’t do this for the money (total January revenue = $0, I did make a few hundred in stubhub in October thanks to the Yankees) but if someone would pay me, AWESOME.

      I have met Matt once. We had lunch. We talked about his site, my site, and the Mets for about 90 minutes. I found it him to be very optimistic. He does not have overlords telling him to make posts go away. ALL of my biggest traffic days have come from links from MB to MP and they’ve been stories where I’ve killed the Mets. It would be very very easy for MB to ignore this site, and it doesn’t.

      I think the answer comes from the slugs on the blogs – one is a Grand Central Station for Mets Information, one calls the Mets on the carpet for the stupid things they do. I think both do what they do, as do many other blogs do well what they do.

9. There’s no problem with moderating but when zero comments get Posted that’s just bizarre. He basically chooses who he likes for whatever reason he has and lets them Post while the rest of us keep Posting for no reason at all because it never gets seen by anyone.
   Kinda frustrating since I think the Blog layout and info is good.

   1. Steve333 – I’m trying to figure out if I’m just repeating myself, but my heart is in trying to reply to everyone – my guess is that it’s a function of time.

10. You are reading a conspiracy where there isn’t one steve333. The moderation thing was/is poorly done, I agree. For instance, I was moderated for months, but it obviously wasn’t because he didn’t like what I said, because he’s linked to my blog.

    The administrative stuff and the nuts and bolts behind the blog are often too much for him from what I can tell. WordPress isn’t the most organized software, and he just doesn’t take the time he should to go through the thousands of comments and emails to make sure people aren’t moderated.

    There are plenty of other places to comment and discuss the team though. There’s even a blog formed by a community of former Metsblog commenters taht got frustrated with the way the moderation process went, and it’s a pretty cool place.

    1. As I’ve said, I can only talk about my own experience. I’m now in my comments moderation page. I’m reading the comments and trying to reply. This is a 30 or so comment thread, which is huge for here and would be small for MB. Folks like you Ceetar I have marked as “trusted” because you refularly contribute, and it would surprise me if you suddenly went on some racist namecalling tear (and if you did, I would delete the comment and change your status). I bet it’s just a function of being “too popular.”

11. Part of the reason some of us dislike the way Matt goes about his business is bec. he is very hands-off with his readers.

    Not to toot your horn, Shannon, but you are reachable and you’ll respond – even when you may not be in the mood. And I’m not talking about once a year.

    Cerrone’s articles are pretty good sometimes, as well as the post-game “Lease you should know” columns. His stoic-vlogs are not the greatest and the need to transcribe interviews is making a big deal out of it.

    Lately, Cerrone is saying, “…and it is something I said will go down…” or “…it’s a deal I referenced last week.” Quit showing off. Give the details and drop the props-act.

    Baron, Cerrone’s co-author, is a sweetheart and taking a page out of his book would do Matt a whole lot of good.

    I haven’t read the comment section (more than twice) since last year and it’s fine that MetsBlog would have 100 people in the world commenting daily. Although I have accounts that were approved on MetsBlog, I don’t feel that it’s a site I would want to waste much time sharing my thought on.

    Enough with the aristocratic beer, Cerrone.

    Sober up, interact and most importantly, be a likeable guy.

    Thanks, Shannon. Keep up the articles because it aint hard to tell – it comes from a good place.

    1. Eli thanks for the kind words, and as I said in another post I don’t know Matt – we had lunch, we’ve probably traded emails say 10 times (maybe it’s 8 maybe it’s 20) and we talked about conceptually attending a game together. The man I had lunch with was a cool optimistic Mets fan..if we went to a game together I’d bitch about the noise and he’d look forward to the Mets coming back from down 7-1 after 4.

       It’s not my place to speak for someone I don’t know, but based upon personal experience I bet it’s just a matter of no-more hours left in the day, and I think Michael Baron’s note to me (now posted in the main article) gives insight into that.

12. Metsblog is the first Mets site I go to, and I go there maaaaaany times a day (Mets Police is second, Shannon!) because it has about as up-to-the-minute news as I can find, and lots of it. The sense that I get about Matt, in my opinion, is that he will gaze through the Howie-Rose-colored glasses at times. I don’t consider him a sell-out or SNY shill, but I do sometimes feel he toes the company line in order to perhaps maintain the access to the club that many Mets fans would (and do) envy. Perhaps his taking the occasional, um, conservative approach to criticizing the club and its moves – as opposed to my “WTF are you doing?!” apoplexy – is his way of not breaking the incredibly thin skin of the front office, and keeps those interviews with Doc and Darryl, etc. coming.
    And, yeah, his “Mets had a successful off season because they didn’t do anything stupid” comment on Metsblog today was particularly mind-boggling.
    It’s still the best site for Mets news. For analysis/comments? Maybe not so much.

13. Shannon, I don’t expect a blogger to be able to respond to every Post, the fact that you respond at all is a big plus. I mainly just wanted to have a give and take with the comment section on his site. I have been a reader since the beginning, then he started the approval process and months later I still don’t exist. It’s pretty insulting so I guess it just got my dander up. Check out his Posting requirements, it makes him sound like a jerk, whether he is one or not.
    Plus, he has a place to email him and not once has he ever responded to an email. Why even have a place to email him if he isn’t going to ever respond?

    >There’s even a blog formed by a community of former Metsblog commenters taht got frustrated with the way the moderation process went, and it’s a pretty cool place>
    Which blog is this if you don’t mind me asking?

    1. I can see already how it can become a runaway train – for ecample, theres a comment on here where Ceetar and Eli are chatting? Should I reply to that one even though I have nothing to add to that particular exchange?

14. I should add i DO like Metsblog and still read the articles. I just don’t like the elitist ‘you can Post but you can’t’ crap that he started.

15. >There’s even a blog formed by a community of former Metsblog commenters taht got frustrated with the way the moderation process went, and it’s a pretty cool place>
    Which blog is this if you don’t mind me asking?

    Ceetar told me it’s: http://www.nleastchatter.com/realdirtymets

    I do not approve of such sites, but I am not anti the fact of sharing them. 🙂

16. a long time ago i reserved myself to only relying on metsblog for news…which it is fine for. i don’t even think about commenting or relying on that site for anything more.

    i think the idea that cerrone toes the line to maintain access to insider info is accurate. but reporting the news and offering an opinion are two different things and i don’t think he does the latter particularly well.

    and he continuously describes pitchers as having “let up” or “let in” runs….which bugs the crap out of me. has he never heard the word “allowed?” it’s obviously a nitpick, but I can’t think of any baseball writers that I respect that do that.

17. Just to clarify, it’s not a blog about bashing Matt, it’s become a legitimate Mets blog that just happened to be formed out of the disapproval of the way the comment/moderation situation was going down at Metsblog.

    They usually have a lively discussion going in the comments section, and last year at least they joined an irc chat room similar to hotfoot for in-game discussions. (Although Twitter has really replaced the need for that in my mind, but we’ll see)

    1. its not cold at night in April, a Monday night was the perfect time do have the first game at Citi

18. That addition up top from Michael Baron is kinda funny because a large number of the commentators that did receive the ability to Post are truly uninteresting and basically just bash on each other. If that’s what Metsblog considers the cream of the crop than they have other issues!
    I think perhaps they thought they were getting too many comments and wanted to cut the number down. Whatever the case the way it went down was unprofessional for lack of a better word.

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