Should the Mets have banners for old Giants and Dodgers players?

Michael posted this in the comments a while back, and I have been sitting on it for a rainy day.  Since it rained today and Duke’s passing makes this topical…

Realistically looking at it, both the Giants and Dodgers may as well have been expansion teams with veteran players that were created out west for all the acknowledgement they have of their pre-1958 past. Other than Jackie Robinson, the Dodgers retired numbers are all from players that have played since 1958 for them (although some of these players actually had their glory years in Flatbush). The Giants have done a better job of lip service to their heroes of the past, but it is safe to say that the ghosts of the great Giant teams from days of yore, managed by the spectre of John McGraw, are still roaming the Elysian Fields of Coogan’s Bluff. Terry, Ott, Matty and McGraw are better remembered in New York than in California (and when someone is looking back at the career of Willie Mays, many people look back at him more often as a New York Giant more than a SF Giant. It has been argued that the fans in San Francisco disliked him there because they always considered him a New York Giant which is why they embraced McCovey et al more than they ever embraced him).

Say what you will about the Wilpons, but I do believe that they take seriously the mantle of the Mets being representative of both the NL teams of pre-1958 and also of their own history. Which is why I believe they rectified the color scheme of the Mets twelve years ago by adding black to the official colors. Also,I think that any HOF player that played for the pre-1958 Giants or Dodgers should have some sort of banner with their name at Citi Field with the respective black & orange NY or blue & white B to honor them where they actually were represented. And, since he actually did play for the Mets and went with them to the World Series in 1973, the Mets should retire Mays’ #24. IMHO FWIW.

I’m too lazy to go through my pictures but somewhere I have a shot of what the Phillies do.  In centerfield they have a wall of Philly baseball history…it includes the A’s and some Negro League teams.

Perhaps the inclusion of some New York baseball history (from the ancient Metropolitans to Mel Ott to Pee Wee Reese and some Negro League teams) might make for a nice exhibit in the museum.  There’s plenty of room in the back where the weird jewelry waits for someone to purchase it.

Make our own Mets 2011 Old Timers Day: First Base

This was the original email that started the “make our own…” discussion.  Since my brain is foggy this morning (gotta head to The Unnamed Donuts Chain) and y’all have been into the topic this week, I thought I’d re-post first base.

A great idea from Klinkuno:


Regarding Old Timers Day. How about a little item on the blog about who you would like to see by position. For instance one day we could pick 3 guys at 1B, the next day 3 at 2B.

I love it.

Invite whoever you want.  Three guys and only three.   As you will see, for some positions that will be easy and for others three will be quite challenging. Obviously the player needs to be alive.

I am going to invite Keith Hernandez, Ed Kranepool and I will personally invite Dave Magadan (who never should have been benched to play Garry Templeton at first)….I know y’all will stick up for Olerud.

Who would you invite?  Hit comments to nominate.

Make our own Mets 2011 Old Timers Day: Catcher

Premise:  invite three living retired players to a hypothetical Old Timer’s Day.

This one is a little tough if I’m only going to invite three catchers.

Under the rules of our game we can only invite three. So I will invite…

Jerry Grote, John Stearns, and Todd Hundley.

Yeah I know who I left off.   There’s like 6 more guys who should be invited including Ed Hearn, Todd Pratt, Ron Hodges, Paul LoDuca and those two other guys.

I never realized how many likeable Mets catchers there have been. Who are your three?